The rest of the symphonies not mentioned could go into any of the boxes you mention. The 5th is probably the weakest, but all in all classics for sure. I have had a lot of respect for Bernstein/NYP as well. by Ralph » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:17 am, Post ↳   ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox May 2006 to Feb 26 2007, ↳   ARCHIVED: Corner Pub May 2006 to Feb 26 2007, ↳   ARCHIVED: Classical Music Chatterbox August 2005 to May 31, 2006, ↳   ARCHIVED: Corner Pub August 2005 to May 31, 2006, ↳   ARCHIVED Classical Music Chatterbox March-August 05, The absolute best Mahler Symphony Cycle (boxed set), http://www.davidstuff.com/political/wmdquotes.htm, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pbp0hur ... re=related, http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/alb ... m_id=56918, http://members.sibeliusmusic.com/markpreece, http://members.tripod.com/~Karl_P_Henning/, http://www.musicweb-international.com/Mahler/index.html. 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Abbado's earlier Mahler cycle comprises a relatively expensive box set, but I do like it, especially M1, M3, M7. Mahler is the new Beethoven, and CD cycles abound. I'm not qualified to vote (not heard enough versions) but I recently bought the Bertini cycle because it was rated the best by both Gramophone and the Penguin Guide. by some guy » Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:27 am, Post Its life cycle is closely tied to its amazing migration. My other option would be the 1988 LPO/Tennstedt (EMI) recorded live in the Royal Festival Hall at Tennstedt's 'comeback' concert after a bout of treatment for cancer. We will explore both the life cycle and the ... concert is one of Mahler's most charming and best-loved works, the enchanting Fourth Symphony, featuring by CharmNewton » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:43 pm, Post by pizza » Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:22 pm, Post by pizza » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:10 am, Post I very seldom recommend complete box sets, because you can do better with individual "pick and choose". by karlhenning » Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:39 am, Post The older cycle features either the CSO or the WP, the newer (not a complete cycle), the BP. by moldyoldie » Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:42 am, Post Mahler 2 is my favourite out of Mahler’s 10 complete and incomplete symphonies (11 if you count Das Lied von der Erde), and Mahler 8 is very close behind. Segerstam's cycle emphasizes Mahler as a gifted composer, one with great gifts for melody, orchestral color, drama and humor. by walboi » Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:03 pm, Post by Corlyss_D » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:13 pm, Post ''This is the first time … Log in or register to post comments; Barbirolli is the Rosette. I'm very partial to Bernstein, both cycles. by GK » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:53 pm, Post The "Resurrection" Symphony (No. for otherwise people will gradually come to mistrust music claimed to be the best.". Based on terrific performances of 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 Solti is my choice...among these five. Also recommended--Eliahu Inbal and Frankfort Radio Symphony. Among the audience for the premiere of Gustav Mahler’s Eighth Symphony was the teenaged Leopold Stokowski, who would become music director of the Philadelphia Orchestra two years later. Kubelik is Mahler-lite...and generally too fast. The best live Mahler performance I've ever been present for was an Abbado/BPO Mahler 9th in NYC about seven or eight years ago. by Barry » Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:42 am, Post Musica magnorum est solamen dulce laborum. Lipton; Choir of the Transfiguration; NYPO / Leonard Bernstein. We will work hard to be your first choice for bicycles, clothing and accessories. by pizza » Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:22 am, Post I have been reading a lot about different Mahler cycles, and I would like to also get some feedback from you as well. Welcome to the boards, Mark. Gustav Mahler (German: ; 7 July 1860 – 18 May 1911) was an Austro-Bohemian Romantic composer, and one of the leading conductors of his generation. I haven't heard his 2nd in a long time, but I recall it was a bit disappointing for me. There are glories in some of the other sets, too, and individual performances. The two earliest performances (Symphonies Nos. Zubin Mehta + VPO is a classic recommendation for Mahler 2. One cycle not listed is Leif Segerstam's on Chandos. Welcome to the new Classical Music Guide Online Forums! "The public has got to stay in touch with the music of its time . Nevertheless, that performance earned Mahler the best reviews of his career (and reportedly a very lengthy standing ovation at its conclusion). Still, his rather dim view of life has produced some incredible music. This is most recommendable and all the more surprising for a very recent recording when the competition is so great. His Mahler 2 recording is widely available on CD, and you can find others on DVD and/or Youtube. "The Mahler Broadcasts 1948-1982" is a lavish twelve-disc collection containing "live" New York Philharmonic performances - effectively an NYPO Mahler cycle. I very much like Boulez’s Mahler interpretations. by david johnson » Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:22 am, Post Lasting in the 90-minute region, ‘The Resurrection’ Symphony Symphony however, starts as a purely instrumental work, its first three movements kicking off with a menacing funeral march, depicting the ‘hero’ of the First Symphony being carried to his grave. by CharmNewton » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:50 pm, Post According to Archiv Music it is still available as a full set. "Take only pictures, leave only footprints" - John Muir. "My unpretending love's the B flat major by the old Budapest done"---John Berryman. by Lance » Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:19 am, Post Add to that the voice of Marilyn Horne and Adolph Herseth, flugelhorn, and you get something very special, indeed, at least for me. Rafael Kubelik's Mahler Cycle has to be considered among the best ever recorded. You will probably be as incredulous as I was to learn that the greatest cycle of Mahler symphonies comes not from any of the usual suspects — Abbado, Bernstein, Chially, Haitink, Kubelik, Rattle, Sinopoli, Solti, Tennstedt — but from the unsung Gary Bertini, who spent the better part of his career as music director of the Cologne Radio Symphony Orchestra. This is the finest of the post-Bernstein I Mahler cycles. You've left my favorite off the list: The Bernstein DG set. 2 was the first of the nine to use vocal soloists and a choir – a habit Mahler got rather used to in future symphonies. Non-classical music subjects are to be posted in the Corner Pub. Haitink is a long-time favorite. The 2021 state-by-state rankings of the country's standout wealth advisors. Pierre Boulez’s cycle of Mahler symphonies for Deutsche Grammophon, starting with the Sixth with the Vienna Philharmonic recorded in 1994 and ending with the Adagio of the Tenth with the Cleveland Orchestra recorded in 2010, has polarized opinion and has been the source of much amazement as well as harsh criticism. by ch1525 » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:05 am, Post You either love it or hate it. Their live Mahler 5 from the 1995 Amsterdam Mahlerfest (available for download on Operashare) is also up there among the best fifths I've heard. by Heck148 » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:45 am, Post I'd have to go with Bernstein if forced to choose just one set. I have his Concertgebouw cycle primarily on LP. Put together your best cycle of recordings of Mahler symphonies 1-10 & Das Lied-but conducted by those from Mahlers time-Let's say born 1899 or before. Surprised it hasn't made a stronger showing. » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:45 am, Post by Mark Preece » Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:50 am, Post Come on in and check out our top quality bikes and gear from Giant Bicycles and other top brands. I'd also say the same about Haitink's RCOA set, but the I prefer it on LP over CD. Owner Mahler Symphony No. This is because the Second encapsulates all of Mahler and what he sought to achieve with his symphonies, and is rightfully one of the greatest compositions ever. No one's mentioned Gielen, yet, either. by Donaldopato » Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:18 pm, Post And a few I own but haven't listened to yet have received favorable critical commentary, like the Barbirolli 5th and the Bruno Maderna 9th. Your 'hot spot' for all classical music subjects. Bernstein's New York Mahler recordings (now on Sony) were the ones I grew up with and they have held up well over the years. 1: Rafael Kubelík, Bavarian Radio Symphony (DG) No. Also feel free to add another cycle that may not be included here with your explanation as well. Let me add for good measure three cycles which I think are omitted from the list without proper consultation. Love it but it's never been my absolute favorite. Bernstein/NYPH was the one I came in with, but Solti/CSO is the one that I'm leaving with. by pizza » Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:43 pm, Post by Chalkperson » Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:35 pm, Post The first Bernstein is a must-own for any true Mahlerite but I prefer his DG cycle. - Abraham Lincoln. by Lance » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:00 pm, Post by anasazi » Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:29 am, Post I voted for Solti because there are so good ones in it, but I still prefer to choose individually. Always exciting for sure. It is simple. Post . With the shortest of the nine symphonies lasting just under an hour and the longest nearly two, they take a lot of listening. I'd like to thank everyone for their responses, some of which are quite interesting. by Chalkperson » Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:32 pm, Post They are intense and dramatic, but not mannered as some of his later DG cycle can be. For example, I have always been enamoured of No. . by Sergeant Rock » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:53 am, Post This Mahler cycle has had a checkered history on disc. Not sure why Haitink doesn't get mentioned more often his Mahler cycle is one of the best in my modest opinion. --Francis Cardinal George, former Roman Catholic Archbishop of Chicago. For me, it's next to impossible to select one set (though I chose Haitink). While I do not care for Seiji Ozawa, I did think he did a magnificent job with No. For Mahler 1, I really like Kubelik + BRSO by karlhenning » Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:33 am, Post As a result, he produced a recording of Mahler 8 with, perhaps, the best singing of this difficult music. In fact, the fourth is no longer on my least favorite list, solely because of Gielen. (Who IS that guy, we'd laugh!) Mahler was a firm believer that in order to truly appreciate life, one has to suffer its worst aspects. Certainly not the "best" set, but one of historical importance and very much worth hearing is the first complete cycle recorded with a single orchestra; Abravanel/Utah SO on Vanguard, if it can still be found. Finally, I listened to them, and I think his may be the one of the most consistent sets. "Racism is America's Original Sin." Best Regards. The First Symphony was the second release in Michael Tilson Thomas’s Mahler Symphony cycle from San Francisco (SFS Media 8211936-0002-2 review). This symphonies are major masterpieces of their time. Abbado is too polite and emotionally constipated. by Mark Preece » Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:47 am, Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 40 guests. It's a lot cheaper, and maybe easier, to cobble together a set of used CDs on AM and eBay. by pizza » Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:52 am, Post » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:25 am, Post But each symphony has had special interpretations that surpass even the complete sets. by RebLem » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:04 pm, Post 3: Jascha Horenstein, London Symphony (Unicorn) or Claudio Abbado, Berlin Philharmonic (DG) by jserraglio » Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:48 am, Post 1 (Titan). by pizza » Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:32 am, Post by Barry » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:06 pm, Post The monarch is the best-known butterfly species in the world. Mahler is not an easy composer to love, much less understand. For my money the three greatest Mahler conductors of the 20th century were Barbirolli, Horenstein and Scherchen. 2: Simon Rattle, City of Birmingham Symphony (EMI) No. (His Sixth is a bit underpowered for me though.) by C.B. 3 with James Levine conducting the Chicago Symphony Orchestra. 1 Walter 2 Scherchen 3 can't think of any oldies I really like 4 Mengelberg 5 Walter 6 Mitropoulos 7 same as 3 8 don't like it whenever or by whomever recorded 9 Walter DLvDE Jochum by Mark Preece » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:04 pm, Post 2) has always taken first place with Leopold Stokowski and his forces. by C.B. If you could please choose one option, and explain your choice. I've heard all the major 5ths and then some, but the greatest recorded 5th of them all, in my opinion is from the most unlikely source imaginable: the Junge Deutsche Philharmonie, a youth orchestra conducted by Rudolf Barshai, first issued by Laurel Records and now available on Brilliant Records together with Barshai's reconstruction of the 10th. His Mahler 9 in Lucerne is probably the best Mahler performance I have ever seen / heard. The VPO recordings have the best SQ in the cycle probably due to the sonics of the wonderful Musikveiren and the recording techniques used. Hi Mark, and welcome to the boards. I'm surprised Kubelik hasn't received one vote as yet. Mahler symphony cycle; the complete Mozart piano concer-tos; high-quality opera performances, including Mozart in the Martin; a deep concentration on the music of the Russian masters; and his hallmark “Breaking the Silence” series, which turned our attention back toward the music plunged into obscu-rity by the Holocaust. 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